Ava Brighton

[Jessup]

I suggest adding this channel to the content creator section

Ava Brighton

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[pbisque]

Many MGTOW view Ava to be another tradcon chameleon. I give her more credit than that. I think a very small minority of women are able to see the cause and likely effects of what is going on. In the end, she is certainly still being self serving, but so are we all on some level.

In that light, she is better than the average and her content is spot on. Never get it twisted though. She is still a woman subject to hypergamy and solipsism.

 

[Alpha Male Lifestyle]

I disagree. Yes, she's self serving for the simple fact that she figured out that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. If she was in her 20's and looked hot she wouldn't acknowledge the gynocentric society and embraced feminism.

 

[pbisque]

If you watch her content, you will learn that the reason she understands the issues is because her current man is having the piss taken out of him by his ex. Obviously this affects "her" resources. Women have no ability to empathize with men unless it affects them directly. Similar cases are when a grandmother can no longer see her grand kids because their mother won't let the father have access to them. Then all of a sudden, they get it.

These realizations never come to them unless it affects them personally. All the same, once they occur, I think they are genuine. Girls like Ava are helpful on the macro level because the speak the truth and blue pill dudes are more likely to listen to them. On the micro level though, stay MGTOW.

 

[Karim_the_Dream]

Men get enchanted and idealise women. Especially they get enchanted by altruistic (or only seemingly) altruistic women.

When some women speak out for men, then it's somehow cringeworhty and odd to me. I watch Karen Straughan and think "What the heck is this dude Karen Straughan doing? What is her reason for speaking out for men?" Her excuse were once her sons. Or is it in reality attention grabbing out of a compensation for her lack of attention from other men caused by her - for a majority of men - unattractive looking body???

When women do some altruistic acts for men, men will be like: " This unicorn, I LOVE HER!"
I don't know what it is, is it a glimpse of the representstion of the divine female archetype, seen in the image of a motherly, unconditionally loving and caring woman?
I guess the first woman (in the media) who spoke out for men was the author Esther Vilar, who spoke out for men in the 70s, she seemed genuine to me.

Before I came in contact with MGTOW I knew the book "The manipulated Man" by (((Esther Vilar))). This book and Marc Rudov's interviews were my theoretical foundation about the truth of female nature, this book is very short and easy to read. The book in a nutshell: Esther Vilar describes women as only pragmatic and self-serving creatures when it comes to relationships and to interactions with men in general. Also that the society is a gynocentric one because women and their wants and needs are the main economical force for the market.
She describes that it's nothing but shallowness and selfishness with women, women are trapped and kept by their own mental prisons and not by a patriarchal society. So far so good.

Now guess what: I'm also like: "Esther Vilar! I LOVE HER!!! "
I'm also not less cringeworthy than other simps.

A bit off topic:
In this book there is a good example about "honor" that I really liked. Honor is a joke to women, because not pragmatic. She described the example of a gun duell:
Two men have a rendez-vous for a gun fight. The rules are: After counting to 10, one is allowed to turn around and shoot. The rules are followed by the men, because of men's coscience and their concept of honor. Then she takes for example a gun fight between a man vs. woman, where the woman in a duel would just turn around before the 10 counts to shoot her opponent. Because the female duelist sees nothing valuable in "honor", it's an empty word to her because it's not pragmatic to her. Her physical life is threatened and she's in pure survival-mode, only this counts for her and she acts on it.

Back to Esther Vilar:
Even if I watch her interviews now - especially the one discussion with a well known german feminist "Alice Schwarzer" - I really adore her and view this woman as some kind of angel. She spoke so calm with this aggressive monster and was so logical and seemed so kind in general.
(Activate subtitles)

And I do respect her, she was the first who really called women out, this woman was even beaten severely in a woman's bathroom by a bunch of women in Munich back in the 70s. So, women back then didn't want that the bitter truth about the dark side of female nature gets revealed.
But did Esther Vilar make money with that book? Hell YES! And she became also well known. Fact is: That book was THE springboard for her career as an author and as a theater director.
I listened to an interview of her from the 70s and it was a very controversial issue at that time. A man interviewed her, and the male interviewer was in complete denial that men are the manipulated one's in a marriage and relationship. He thought it was a strange idea and thought women were the oppressed ones, for not working and staying at home as housewives.


And MGTOW is known to me since September 2014. Diana Davison with her YouTube channel "Feminism LOL" was the first woman on YouTube I noticed, who made MGTOW related topics in public. I guess in her case it's attention grabbing because of her lack of looks.
But she seems nice to me, a woman who had much hardships in life and lacks attention from men has to develop her character and her intelligence. And I think that's good and I do respect her. Is she self-serving. Yes, I think so.

Then I noticed a less classy woman - "Nollagirl". A woman driving her car and showing her cleavage and telling horror stories about low quality women. At one time her channel had so much hype and so many comments from thirsty men. Like "Your boyfriend is the luckiest man alive!".
Cringe.

Nollagirl is not much different from Ava Brighton and Georgia Free. Same story, different woman:

Now it's Georgia Free and Ava Brighton. The quality of all these listed women got only worse in my opinion.

From these women, Esthar Vilar had it the worst, she was so blunt with this topic at that time, it was so new (to men). Her book was a bestseller, she made money off of her books and became famous but she also avoided the lime light. I think she was genuine.

There aren't that many possible motives for women speaking out for men:
1. Attention grabbing because it's a rarity to see a woman speaking out for men.
2. More attention grabbing by virtue signaling that she's so different from the other evil whores
3. Money grabbing from the freshly gained male audience.

 

[Wildcat4mation]

Many MGTOW view Ava to be another tradcon chameleon. I give her more credit than that. I think a very small minority of women are able to see the cause and likely effects of what is going on. In the end, she is certainly still being self serving, but so are we all on some level.

In that light, she is better than the average and her content is spot on. Never get it twisted though. She is still a woman subject to hypergamy and solipsism.

What you are doing is giving the benefit of the doubt. I am not sure if you could call yourself MGTOW unless there is absolute truth that you know what she is conveying. For this, we...I treat gals all the same. Unless the laws are changed and there is no enabling, you cannot be 100% sure that gals like Ava are "getting it" and even then, you never know (if the laws were changed, males would not be financially tied to females and any divorce would end it, the lower income or no income person being on the streets like it should be). Cheating would still occur, that will never change; however, males will not be forced by the government to pay for it. I guess this would be the first step to male-in-relationship freedom! Yes, it sucks if they yell and cry and preach that "Hey, I am with you guys...please just hear me"; however, evidence is strong that 99.9% of gals are not and many times, more often than not, there is trickery.

It's like listening to a victim and charging a criminal. The victim saw what happened. There is visual evidence that they pull up and nothing is shown on there. The victim pleads, yells, cries that it did happen! She/he was the only witness to it. What happens? It becomes muddled and why? Because statistically, in many similar situations; victims tend to LIE about what happens. They look into it only to find that no other evidence could support it and that alone becomes a statistic. So what happens? There is a loss of trust down to that very level.

The 100% black and white situations of you seeing a difference between a gal who is true in what she says and a gal that is clearly in it to win it, everybody knows (most obvious). The problem is with the other cases were, the very minute that there is trickery from a gal who does not want to be a chameleon and then goes back to her old ways, destroys that statistic of even being "sideable" with. In the end, there is NO TRUST at all for any grouping of gals.

 

[MGTOWRevolution]

I disagree. Yes, she's self serving for the simple fact that she figured out that you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. If she was in her 20's and looked hot she wouldn't acknowledge the gynocentric society and embraced feminism.

She agrees with 1 st and 2nd wave feminism. Clearly she has no clue what she is talking about. She has a patreon already. She is obviously around for the money.

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